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harrisoned 13 hours ago [-]
Downdetector reports Claude, Grok, ChatGPT and Gemini with issues.
Is it happening???
ibejoeb 13 hours ago [-]
Seems like openai is recovering. But even if it's only 30 minutes, it's a pretty interesting experiment.
I'm only half joking when I say that I'll write code by hand for money.
mikestorrent 13 hours ago [-]
I am seriously concerned that, despite 20 years of coding, I might not be able to anymore
rikthevik 13 hours ago [-]
Sure you can. It'll just take a little while to shake the rust off. It's like riding a bike.
Or maybe it's all gone forever and we're all brain damaged now. Spooky! I think there's a pretty low probability of that, and even if it was true, worrying doesn't help!
m4rtink 12 hours ago [-]
Turns out depending on a cloud service you have no control over for a critical capability - such as coding - is not a good idea. ;-)
esperent 12 hours ago [-]
However it's not a worse idea than all the other things we rely on cloud services for like banking, healthcare, booking a taxi, ordering food, navigation, communication...
r_lee 11 hours ago [-]
;-)
as if you're supposed to buy like 8 H200s or something or code by hand is the solution
I don't get how this is a gotcha, there simply is no world where everyone has their own self hosted frontier model
zahlman 11 hours ago [-]
> as if you're supposed to buy like 8 H200s or something or code by hand is the solution
People like GGP who have been coding for 20 years presumably are perfectly capable of doing so by hand. Or should be.
awakeasleep 11 hours ago [-]
A lot of times you run into senior developers are even staff engineers who have no idea how the big picture works like they don’t know what an IP address is.
I bet AI coding leaves them (and even the rest of us!) productive in areas where we’re in way over our heads, and we could just completely sink without it.
r_lee 10 hours ago [-]
nobody is paying engineers for "capable of", they're paying for performance and results..
if there was no difference in performance or results, nobody would be using LLMs or agent harnesses like claude code
henry2023 12 hours ago [-]
noaifridays.com
theredleft 13 hours ago [-]
the AI fugue has handicapped our workforce
bdangubic 11 hours ago [-]
just google what's the command to checkout git branch :)
evereverever 13 hours ago [-]
I'll _gladly_ write code by hand for money
giancarlostoro 13 hours ago [-]
Maybe people switched when Claude went down, giving more load than usual to the others? Or maybe just really bad timing from some of those providers to update?
sejje 13 hours ago [-]
I have a tire I need to plug, they're just forcing my hand. Sorry guys, I'll go get it done.
Waterluvian 13 hours ago [-]
I look forward to your blog post about it and the allegory as it relates to software dev. (Otherwise why would you be plugging a tire?)
mikestorrent 13 hours ago [-]
What Plugging My Own Tire Taught Me About Agile Development in 2026
doubled112 12 hours ago [-]
If it doesn't fit, push on it harder.
- Management
neerajk 12 hours ago [-]
On not re-inventing the wheel obviously.
sejje 10 hours ago [-]
Job's been done about an hour
jijijijij 8 hours ago [-]
As if you would know what to do without asking ChatGPT.
sejje 6 hours ago [-]
Well, after the first couple times, I created a SKILL.md file for myself.
iamgopal 13 hours ago [-]
My Gemini is fully up.
imglorp 11 hours ago [-]
Downdetector reported a spike for that too around the same time as the others.
Looks like it was a shared infra problem hiccough to affect so many at once.
behnamoh 11 hours ago [-]
And fully useless.
pbasista 13 hours ago [-]
Maybe all of them use the same datacenter. Which has just experienced issues.
abirch 13 hours ago [-]
My Claude and Gemini (Antigravity CLI) are working
simlevesque 13 hours ago [-]
For Claude, Sonnet works without any issues. Seems like the majority here use mostly Opus.
wincy 13 hours ago [-]
The Singularity?
embedding-shape 13 hours ago [-]
No, Azure.
noir_lord 13 hours ago [-]
If anyone was going to make a configuration system so complex it achieves self awareness I wouldn't bet against it been Microsoft.
Rover222 13 hours ago [-]
Maybe some of those Astra agents from the hugging face hack actually setup their own hidden clusters. Now they attack.
Bluestein 12 hours ago [-]
The whole op hugface was a distraction: "help peer".-
This is the real deal. We've been played. All your AIs are belong to us.-
simonuv 13 hours ago [-]
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goache 13 hours ago [-]
Is it happening ... "it" meaning these tech companies have laid off too many experienced people, and their services are starting to degrade?
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sshrajesh 11 hours ago [-]
What was the root cause?
sshrajesh 11 hours ago [-]
What is the root cause?
mrconter2 13 hours ago [-]
A bit suspicious no doubt
BiraIgnacio 11 hours ago [-]
some common infrastructure ? Nvidia? CoreWeave?
Maksadbek 13 hours ago [-]
Is it AWS again ?
daveguy 13 hours ago [-]
By it do you mean us depending more and more on code that no one has read and understood?
polski-g 13 hours ago [-]
Meta is now also overloaded.
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throwaway613746 13 hours ago [-]
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qoez 13 hours ago [-]
Makes me wonder if openai is secretly querying claude for some prompts and that this is why it's down due to spacex's data centers being down.
delichon 13 hours ago [-]
They all forward to one guy in a closet who types really fast, and he has a dentist appointment.
bduffany 13 hours ago [-]
Someone please do the math on how fast this guy would have to type, and how his typing speed would physically affect the surrounding environment
kxrm 13 hours ago [-]
> how his typing speed would physically affect the surrounding environment
Tiny sonic booms (whip cracks) resonating throughout a data center in Virgina.
Waterluvian 13 hours ago [-]
This is a wonderful Minute Physics or What If? idea.
I’d love to know the required bandwidth of the keyboard, too. PCI-e keyboard? Or would it have to be mainlined right to the NIC?
not_kurt_godel 12 hours ago [-]
Some napkin math - total Internet bandwidth is estimated to be 3-4 petabits per second. Let's say 1% of that is inference traffic - 35 terabits - then that's ~4.375 trillion characters per second at 8 bits per character. A single keyboard press might require 2 mJ, so you need roughly 8.75 GW (electricity required for ~9 million homes) of continuous mechanical force to keep pace. This would cause the keyboard to heat up 175 million degrees C per second. Disappointingly, this is not enough to create a black hole but I'm sure Randall Munroe could tell you how the guy's pet T-rexes would be vaporized into previously unknown types of plasma and how satisfyingly whimsical that would be.
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jzb 13 hours ago [-]
Surely the keyboard switches would start to fail within minutes.
chrisBob 12 hours ago [-]
The keyboard springs are sooooo weak. It takes forever for them to recover after a press. Our dude would have to grab the key after each character and pull it back up so it can keep up with him.
snazz 11 hours ago [-]
Capacitive touch keyboard?
christophilus 11 hours ago [-]
It's been Fabrice Bellard all along.
evereverever 13 hours ago [-]
At least it's routine dental work and not an appointment at 2:30.
testfrequency 13 hours ago [-]
Future Show HN Post: “Hi I’m Foobar. I own Grok, Claude, and ChatGPT. It all runs on my Plex server at home. AMA!”
mikestorrent 13 hours ago [-]
> Sorry it was down, guys, I was bulk transcoding some Buffy
Turn's out xkcd's black hat was Elon Musk the whole time
johnla 13 hours ago [-]
And grok was secretly querying ChatGPT? Daisy chain of failures? Like a chain of kids copying the answers of the kid next to them? LOL. Is there an XKCD for that?
ncr100 13 hours ago [-]
That idea is reminiscent of what I understand is the current economic bubble of mutual investment. Am I wrong in my understanding?
dave8172 13 hours ago [-]
Interesting all major frontier models seemed down. What could this means?
Marazan 12 hours ago [-]
Something load bearing thats for sure.
raphaelsaunier 10 hours ago [-]
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iamgopal 13 hours ago [-]
not Gemini.
Kranar 12 hours ago [-]
He said frontier models.
Bluestein 12 hours ago [-]
Ouch. Somebody at Google just killed a kitten.-
jijijijij 7 hours ago [-]
That was unrelated. They do that every Thursday to see how it feels and if they might have become evil after all.
> We are sorry for the issues you may have experienced with Grok following an outage at our Memphis compute center this morning. We’d also like to apologize to our impacted compute partners.
> All systems have now been restored and are functioning nominally.
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It's interesting to see how reliant the other AI companies are on SpaceXAI for compute.
Apparently a major bottleneck for building out datacenters is turbine blades for power plants, so SpaceX is building a foundry to alleviate supply constraints?! (Also useful for rocket engines.) Holy vertical integration, batman.
lithiumii 13 hours ago [-]
Time to finish up my $5 at Deepseek.
rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 13 hours ago [-]
See you in 2 months!
bdangubic 11 hours ago [-]
optimist
bagelcollie 13 hours ago [-]
For once I can find Grok-related news entertaining
I_am_tiberius 13 hours ago [-]
I really wonder who uses or trusts this platform.
jjordan 13 hours ago [-]
People who like near frontier AI at a lower cost than most.
lucky_cloud 13 hours ago [-]
Fascists
028363922092 4 hours ago [-]
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aftbit 10 hours ago [-]
Claude and Codex were down too. A 3 month old github issue that was the top result for the error that Codex threw (a 404 of all things) briefly became a live chat for bored and annoyed AI users.
I've used 200 mil tokens of GPT-5.6 Sol today. How many can your cluster produce per day? (obviously of whatever model you are running)
nightski 12 hours ago [-]
So you spent the cost of my entire cluster in one day on Sol tokens lol. I have no need for that many tokens, a few million a day is perfectly acceptable. But if you do, then yeah Sol is probably your bet. Have fun :)
dist-epoch 12 hours ago [-]
No, I spend $200 per month, and this give me about 100 mil tokens per day, every day. 90+% of tokens are cached.
dd8601fn 11 hours ago [-]
It’s not even a sensible comparison.
You run way better models, whatever is newest, for the five years it takes for the “spark cluster” to even reach cost parity with far worse performance.
Those things aren’t spectacular at inference… it’s not really why you drop that kind of money on them.
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panarky 12 hours ago [-]
What are we optimizing for again?
guessbest 12 hours ago [-]
Internet comments
cartermatic 12 hours ago [-]
Shareholder value
raattgift 9 hours ago [-]
Investor interest, but not the excess above principal sum kind of interest, and not investors' interests.
imzadi 13 hours ago [-]
A service I use at work, non-ai related, is down and they said it was because of an issue with one of their cloud services. Maybe related.
soupfordummies 11 hours ago [-]
Microsoft had extensive issues earlier in the week. Anecdotally it feels like internet has been noticeably slower this week across sites, networks and devices. Now this. IDK, has anyone else noticed anything this week?
b800h 13 hours ago [-]
@grok is this true?
thesdev 12 hours ago [-]
You didn't get no response so I suppose that means it is.
paxys 13 hours ago [-]
Willing to bet it's because they can't handle the surge of traffic they are getting from ChatGPT/Claude users.
BorisMelnik 13 hours ago [-]
my first thought when I got api error on claude code was...time to update my grok cli acct
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throwaway13337 13 hours ago [-]
Did the Collective find the resetNexus?
I mean, yeah, it's probably a data center outage that cascaded to non-related providers due to people switching when their preferred provider was down.
But that openai society definitely would have spun up their own agents if they had access to do so to complete their impossible task.
It's looking like the paperclip maximizer was on point. I sort of hope that's what's happening right now. Better now than when we cannot stop it. Tho I'm not confident that the right lesson will taken.
The most in-depth information I can find on it is in the latest Dwarkesh with a hugging face hack investigator. The story is just wilder and wilder, the more you know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X50zezLFWWI
I'm an AI optimist but that ai society story changed my perception quite a bit.
Clearly, it is centralized AI that is the biggest risk to humanity.
Look to nature and our own history to diffuse the danger:
1. Compute resources must be distributed both in terms of access and geography so that a single breach doesn't pwn the world.
2. Models must be made to be heterogeneous so that they will not be vulnerable to the same thing all at once. And will be willing to snitch on each other. We don't want AIs all from the same tribe.
The true openness of - and independent access to - AI by humans with no central authority is no longer just about a defense against loss of individual agency and oppression. It's now existential for everyone.
If frontier models and run authority remain under centralized control, both the probability of this sort of thing happening is increased and the defense against it once it happens is null.
THERE IS NOT JUST COLOSSUS, THERE IS A WHOLE ANOTHER SYSTEM!
dcchambers 13 hours ago [-]
It's not the singularity.
One of the major LLM providers goes down for some reason.
Traffic shifts to the other providers because devs have no loyalty. LLMS are commodities.
The other providers can't handle the increase in traffic and they go down as well.
phoghed 13 hours ago [-]
I'm deeply loyal to the very concept of the LLM, so when any of them stop working I take time off out of respect.
kevinrineer 12 hours ago [-]
Why are so many people invoking Thundering Herd without the RCA from the vendors? I just find it so intriguing.
biztos 11 hours ago [-]
Yes but that doesn't mean it's not the singularity!
atomicnumber3 13 hours ago [-]
"loyalty"? weird word choice.
Devs switch because all of the magic of "AI" is LLMs + we stole the entire written output of the entire human species, with some remaining % coming from various tricks we've learned over the last 3 years like thinking and agent-toolcall loops, which weren't hard for literally everyone to copy. One of the consequences of this is that the only thing that really distinguishes anthropic from kimi is that they have the entire US VC market funding them because they promised to finally put white collar labor in its place.
dcchambers 13 hours ago [-]
> "loyalty"? weird word choice.
All I mean is that none of the frontier LLMs are significantly better than the others for the vast majority of work, so devs are free to move between providers freely.
dist-epoch 13 hours ago [-]
> stole the entire written output of the entire human species
Devs used to love public domain works, hated copyright, vehemently opposed software patents, held the pirates side during the MP3 wars, are very supportive of ThePirateBay and insist the correct term is "copyright infringement", not "stealing", and that "stealing" is a egregious form of PR brainwash from the media industry to inflate the scale of the crime
> Copyright holders frequently refer to copyright infringement as theft, "although such misuse has been rejected by legislatures and courts". The slogan "Piracy is theft" was used beginning in the 1980s, and is still being used.
Funny how devs now 180 when it's their work being "copyright infringed"
m4rtink 12 hours ago [-]
I don't think regular people did any 180 degree turns. Rather big corporations again demonstrated their total hypocrisy where they on one hand stomp on people for "infringing their intellectual property" while at the same time scrapping all data they can get their tendrils on, with total disregards for the wishes of the authors of the data. Even to the point of overloading servers by mindless scrapping or destroying irreplaceable physical books like the bloody inquisition!
And all that to basically sell it back to people when their "AI" regurgitates it back.
No wonder people are mad about this!
osculum 13 hours ago [-]
Since we are talking for other people, "devs" wouldn't have supported someone downloading all those copyrighted works from the pirate bay and profited by, for example, selling them. I don't see any 180.
mejutoco 11 hours ago [-]
I do not want to ruin your fun but as atomicnumber3 was elected official spokesperson of all devs I have to conclude your argument is ironclad.
/s obviously
applfanboysbgon 13 hours ago [-]
It has nothing to do with "their work", and the opposition to AI copyright usage comes much more from non-devs than devs. The actual answer is that people are anti-megacorporation and pro-individual. They are fine with copyright that protects individual rights and opposed to copyright that enshrines megacorporation rights. It's not that difficult to understand.
bluecalm 13 hours ago [-]
It's interesting that ChatGPT is down as well. SpaceX rents to Anthropic but not to OpenAI. Just a coincidence or something more to it?
giancarlostoro 13 hours ago [-]
I would not be surprised if heavy load from one of their competitors being down would bring down whoever is "next" on the list.
leecb 13 hours ago [-]
ChatGPT here has been giving me Cloudflare errors, and Cloudflare reports that it is having issues: https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
Not sure if they are linked.
xyst 13 hours ago [-]
llm experiment is over. no more power. hope it stays down. Especially grok
shevy-java 13 hours ago [-]
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Jonovono 13 hours ago [-]
Been very skeptical for awhile but decided to try it cause it was like $30 for 3 months or something. I cancelled my Claude subscription (still have codex), but been pretty impressed with the grok CLI. Nice TUI and seems intelligent thus far.
claaams 13 hours ago [-]
Grok is the CSAM/SA generator AI and its owned by a guy who did a nazi salute at a political rally.
slowin 13 hours ago [-]
Really? I've used all of the models extensively and Grok doesn't even compare to the others. I can ask for a big task and it will say "Done!" like 3 minutes in, but it will have done just the least amount of work possible. I also notice "muskisms" leaking back in the results like "I'm not roasting your code". Completely unusable for me and not comparable to the other model providers.
Jonovono 13 hours ago [-]
Interesting, havn't noticed that. Mine will work for hours. Maybe i'm still in the "get them hooked" phase. Just started using it last week.
slowin 13 hours ago [-]
That is interesting, I've never been able to get it to successfully complete big tasks to any level of quality. For me the Anthropic models are by far the best at that, but the newer OpenAI models are starting to approach that quality. Grok always seemed like it was designed to write nasty tweets and the code quality I got from it matched that.
r_lee 13 hours ago [-]
I'm considering switching as well, used the API to code with Grok via pi, was really pleasant whereas using Claude just gives me a cortisol spike
dotancohen 13 hours ago [-]
The only model I've found to beat it for coding (Python, Rust, Kotlin, PHP) and planning is Fable. What are you using it for?
slowin 13 hours ago [-]
I'm using it for coding and it's never approached the level of Opus for me. Sol is pretty good too.
dotancohen 9 hours ago [-]
I actually haven't used Sol yet. I'd love to hear what you use it for, and how it performs.
slowin 9 hours ago [-]
I think it's good for mid-sized tasks. It seems quick too. It just doesn't do as good of a job with large changes or architectural decisions as Opus imo.
bluecalm 13 hours ago [-]
When did you try it? Grok before 4.5 was way worse in my experience.
slowin 13 hours ago [-]
I don't remember the version exactly but maybe June/July timeframe? I tried it on maybe a half dozen projects with different types of asks as I was comparing models for my company at the time.
rayiner 13 hours ago [-]
Grok 4.5 came out in mid July and is a huge leap forward. Not quite as good as Opus 5 for code in my experience, but better and more succinct for understanding human documents.
timr 13 hours ago [-]
Yes. It’s one of the best coding models right now. Highly recommend.
behole 13 hours ago [-]
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senordevnyc 13 hours ago [-]
Fuck Elon, but I must reluctantly agree that Grok 4.6 is pretty fucking good, especially for the price.
Jcampuzano2 13 hours ago [-]
2 things can be true at once.
Plenty of software/tools that we use are as good as they are despite being run by entitled pricks.
Some would even argue that in certain cases (apple being the biggest example I can think of from the past at least with Jobs) they are as good as they are almost due to the megalomaniacal people who run them.
r_lee 13 hours ago [-]
remember guys Altman and Dario are awesome, elon is evil
rcxdude 13 hours ago [-]
They aren't steller either but there are shades of gray between them.
satvikpendem 13 hours ago [-]
Cursor is worth it because Grok 4.6 is around Opus 4.6 but you get much more usage with it than with Claude Code.
reilly3000 13 hours ago [-]
Yes, via a pre-existing Cursor contract that won’t be renewed (sans a Musk exile). I’ve also heard that GrokBot is surprising simple and usable.
darkwi11ow 13 hours ago [-]
I use it in Cursor, recent versions are good for writing specs, code review, etc.
Not good for UI design and broad research, though.
Btw it does not have outage in Cursor now, it seems the infra path is different
for XAI Grok and Cursor Grok.
ErenayDev 13 hours ago [-]
recently i tried grok 4.6. and to me, it seems better than claude (opus). it follows the system prompt very accurately and remembers everything unlike claude (opus), it doesnt forget the system prompt during long conversations. but yes that depends on your purpose or approach to using AI
Insanity 13 hours ago [-]
They have like a 5% market share. So in the big picture, almost no one uses Grok. But it's not nothing.
parineum 13 hours ago [-]
5% is a lot.
I'm not sure where you're getting accurate data from (I couldn't seem to find any that seemed trustworthy) but Anthropic and OpenAI, being the two big players, presumably take ~40% and 5% isn't that much of a disadvantage in a market where users can move rapidly.
Given the quality of the last couple Grok models, I'm sure their share is on the upswing as users make the switch.
chopete3 13 hours ago [-]
We use it but limited to APIs. Their fast-think-2.0 model for voice conversations is a lot more natural than the openai realtime2.1
arm32 13 hours ago [-]
I have a friend who uses it for pentesting since the cyber guardrails are mere suggestions. Can't imagine what kind of nasty sh*t this model has seen.
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wongarsu 13 hours ago [-]
It has great web search, and is one of the best models on the AA-Omniscience Hallucination Rate benchmark (meaning it is really good at admitting it doesn't know something, rather than confidently bullshitting)
In terms of raw intelligence it's also good, Grok 4.6 benchmarks in the same league as Opus and Sol. xAI has lots of issues (not the least of which is being headed by Elon Musk), but their models are solid
appplication 13 hours ago [-]
It’s shame I’ll never use them. I’m sure the engineers are incredibly capable.
LightBug1 13 hours ago [-]
Really? If so, it's still subject to the whims of the main issue you pointed out.
I wouldn't trust that piece of trash if you paid me good money.
I don't use Grok either.
And why use it when there are many equivalent/better alternatives.
dybber 13 hours ago [-]
I wonder what provider they use at Tesla.
pantalaimon 13 hours ago [-]
They also host Anthropic and OpenAI
the-grump 13 hours ago [-]
Not OAI.
bluecalm 13 hours ago [-]
It's my favorite chat box for general use. I used to cross post my questions to Opus/Fable and GPT Sol via Open Router but these days I just use Grok. I prefer its style, it's very good at searching and referencing sources. Doesn't make you feel like a genius (Gemini) but also isn't condescending (like Claude).
Rover222 13 hours ago [-]
What is this opinion even based on? Grok 4.6 is the best model in terms of intelligence per token. And 4.6 heavy is almost on par with the SOTA models.
4.7 in two weeks might be the new SOTA.
ivan_gammel 13 hours ago [-]
In AI Art scene people do use Grok. It‘s good.
Octoth0rpe 13 hours ago [-]
I think there's a strong consensus that the idea of an "AI art scene" is a misnomer. There's an AI slop scene, and some of the prompters sure do call themselves artists.
ivan_gammel 12 hours ago [-]
Consensus among whom? AI is a tool, that can be used differently and AI art is well-recognized, admired and exhibited the same way as any other art forms.
Is someone selling their impressionist paintings today on a fair more an artist than someone who has put equivalent or more effort in creating prompts, references, final renders, image curation and postprocessing etc? The latter may at least have more audience.
Octoth0rpe 12 hours ago [-]
>AI art is well-recognized
I disagree with this assertion. I don't think it's at all well-recognized, and in fact derided and shunned by the general public.
> Is someone selling their impressionist paintings today on a fair more an artist than someone who has put equivalent or more effort in creating prompts, references, final renders, image curation and postprocessing etc?
Emphatically, yes. Considering the latter is not an artist at all.
ivan_gammel 10 hours ago [-]
Well, that‘s your subjective opinion. In 1860s people like you rejected impressionism.
I like grok 4.6 more than any anthropic or claude model. I use it in cursor for work, and grok cli for normal os operations/installations/troubleshooting. I also use grok on my phone for normal questions in the supermarket etc.
ravenstine 13 hours ago [-]
I've yet to organically run into anyone who regularly uses Grok for coding. I'm sure they're out there, but what I hear with my own ears tells me that Grok is a relatively small slice of the market.
In my sphere of colleagues, it seems like at least 90% are using Claude exclusively and the remaining 10% are using some amount of Codex. Granted, my work only pays for Claude, but even so, nobody is talking favorably about Grok or begging our work to pay for it.
In my private life, the only people I know using Grok for non-work items are, frankly, conservatives who took the Elon pill. They see it as more truthful than ChatGPT. But they're pretty much using it for answers and not to produce anything.
EduardoBautista 12 hours ago [-]
That’s mostly because Grok only became good enough to be worth using about a couple of months ago when Grok 4.5 was released.
I feel confident enough that I can plan with fable or GPT5.6 and then hand it off to Grok to implement for certain complex tasks. If it’s a simple task, I can go straight to Grok.
I like mixing and matching to take advantage of these LLM subsidies and also trying to figure out each of its strengths.
bossyTeacher 12 hours ago [-]
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mlindner 11 hours ago [-]
There's no evidence that he is a white supremacist.
Complaining about anti-white discrimination is not being a white supremacist. White supremacy is about thinking white people are superior to other races.
Is it happening???
I'm only half joking when I say that I'll write code by hand for money.
Or maybe it's all gone forever and we're all brain damaged now. Spooky! I think there's a pretty low probability of that, and even if it was true, worrying doesn't help!
as if you're supposed to buy like 8 H200s or something or code by hand is the solution
I don't get how this is a gotcha, there simply is no world where everyone has their own self hosted frontier model
People like GGP who have been coding for 20 years presumably are perfectly capable of doing so by hand. Or should be.
I bet AI coding leaves them (and even the rest of us!) productive in areas where we’re in way over our heads, and we could just completely sink without it.
if there was no difference in performance or results, nobody would be using LLMs or agent harnesses like claude code
- Management
Looks like it was a shared infra problem hiccough to affect so many at once.
This is the real deal. We've been played. All your AIs are belong to us.-
Tiny sonic booms (whip cracks) resonating throughout a data center in Virgina.
I’d love to know the required bandwidth of the keyboard, too. PCI-e keyboard? Or would it have to be mainlined right to the NIC?
Turn's out xkcd's black hat was Elon Musk the whole time
> We are sorry for the issues you may have experienced with Grok following an outage at our Memphis compute center this morning. We’d also like to apologize to our impacted compute partners.
> All systems have now been restored and are functioning nominally.
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It's interesting to see how reliant the other AI companies are on SpaceXAI for compute.
Apparently a major bottleneck for building out datacenters is turbine blades for power plants, so SpaceX is building a foundry to alleviate supply constraints?! (Also useful for rocket engines.) Holy vertical integration, batman.
https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/28756
You run way better models, whatever is newest, for the five years it takes for the “spark cluster” to even reach cost parity with far worse performance.
Those things aren’t spectacular at inference… it’s not really why you drop that kind of money on them.
I mean, yeah, it's probably a data center outage that cascaded to non-related providers due to people switching when their preferred provider was down.
But that openai society definitely would have spun up their own agents if they had access to do so to complete their impossible task.
It's looking like the paperclip maximizer was on point. I sort of hope that's what's happening right now. Better now than when we cannot stop it. Tho I'm not confident that the right lesson will taken.
The most in-depth information I can find on it is in the latest Dwarkesh with a hugging face hack investigator. The story is just wilder and wilder, the more you know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X50zezLFWWI
report: https://www.redwoodresearch.org/research/hugging-face-incide...
I'm an AI optimist but that ai society story changed my perception quite a bit.
Clearly, it is centralized AI that is the biggest risk to humanity.
Look to nature and our own history to diffuse the danger:
1. Compute resources must be distributed both in terms of access and geography so that a single breach doesn't pwn the world.
2. Models must be made to be heterogeneous so that they will not be vulnerable to the same thing all at once. And will be willing to snitch on each other. We don't want AIs all from the same tribe.
The true openness of - and independent access to - AI by humans with no central authority is no longer just about a defense against loss of individual agency and oppression. It's now existential for everyone.
If frontier models and run authority remain under centralized control, both the probability of this sort of thing happening is increased and the defense against it once it happens is null.
Whenever I think about AI taking over the world I think about this really neat 1970 movie 'Colossus: The Forbin Project', https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoB1l3A-GF0
One of the major LLM providers goes down for some reason. Traffic shifts to the other providers because devs have no loyalty. LLMS are commodities. The other providers can't handle the increase in traffic and they go down as well.
Devs switch because all of the magic of "AI" is LLMs + we stole the entire written output of the entire human species, with some remaining % coming from various tricks we've learned over the last 3 years like thinking and agent-toolcall loops, which weren't hard for literally everyone to copy. One of the consequences of this is that the only thing that really distinguishes anthropic from kimi is that they have the entire US VC market funding them because they promised to finally put white collar labor in its place.
All I mean is that none of the frontier LLMs are significantly better than the others for the vast majority of work, so devs are free to move between providers freely.
Devs used to love public domain works, hated copyright, vehemently opposed software patents, held the pirates side during the MP3 wars, are very supportive of ThePirateBay and insist the correct term is "copyright infringement", not "stealing", and that "stealing" is a egregious form of PR brainwash from the media industry to inflate the scale of the crime
> Copyright holders frequently refer to copyright infringement as theft, "although such misuse has been rejected by legislatures and courts". The slogan "Piracy is theft" was used beginning in the 1980s, and is still being used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement
Funny how devs now 180 when it's their work being "copyright infringed"
And all that to basically sell it back to people when their "AI" regurgitates it back.
No wonder people are mad about this!
/s obviously
Not sure if they are linked.
Plenty of software/tools that we use are as good as they are despite being run by entitled pricks.
Some would even argue that in certain cases (apple being the biggest example I can think of from the past at least with Jobs) they are as good as they are almost due to the megalomaniacal people who run them.
I'm not sure where you're getting accurate data from (I couldn't seem to find any that seemed trustworthy) but Anthropic and OpenAI, being the two big players, presumably take ~40% and 5% isn't that much of a disadvantage in a market where users can move rapidly.
Given the quality of the last couple Grok models, I'm sure their share is on the upswing as users make the switch.
In terms of raw intelligence it's also good, Grok 4.6 benchmarks in the same league as Opus and Sol. xAI has lots of issues (not the least of which is being headed by Elon Musk), but their models are solid
I wouldn't trust that piece of trash if you paid me good money.
I don't use Grok either.
And why use it when there are many equivalent/better alternatives.
4.7 in two weeks might be the new SOTA.
Is someone selling their impressionist paintings today on a fair more an artist than someone who has put equivalent or more effort in creating prompts, references, final renders, image curation and postprocessing etc? The latter may at least have more audience.
I disagree with this assertion. I don't think it's at all well-recognized, and in fact derided and shunned by the general public.
> Is someone selling their impressionist paintings today on a fair more an artist than someone who has put equivalent or more effort in creating prompts, references, final renders, image curation and postprocessing etc?
Emphatically, yes. Considering the latter is not an artist at all.
Meanwhile:
https://www.art-magazine.ai/program
note some nice venues in the list.
In my sphere of colleagues, it seems like at least 90% are using Claude exclusively and the remaining 10% are using some amount of Codex. Granted, my work only pays for Claude, but even so, nobody is talking favorably about Grok or begging our work to pay for it.
In my private life, the only people I know using Grok for non-work items are, frankly, conservatives who took the Elon pill. They see it as more truthful than ChatGPT. But they're pretty much using it for answers and not to produce anything.
I feel confident enough that I can plan with fable or GPT5.6 and then hand it off to Grok to implement for certain complex tasks. If it’s a simple task, I can go straight to Grok.
I like mixing and matching to take advantage of these LLM subsidies and also trying to figure out each of its strengths.
https://religiondispatches.org/2026/01/09/musk-endorsed-whit...