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smodo 3 hours ago [-]
I wholeheartedly agree but how can someone only come to this conclusion after years? It is so obvious that writing and reading were for centuries bound in a social contract between reader and writer. Post-modernism if anything reinforced that notion by rebelling against it.
I assure you anyone in the business of administrating stuff through paperwork (government contracting!) is well aware of the complete obliteration of the basic assumption that ‘someone wrote this so it is at least worth a cursory glance’.
For all its other problems this is my main issue with LLM’s. Writing let people communicate across vast distance and time. Given no metadata, today one must initially assume all writing to be noise.
curiousObject 2 hours ago [-]
>the complete obliteration of the basic assumption that ‘someone wrote this so it is at least worth a cursory glance’.
The OP is not disputing that a lot of writing already had less than zero value to the reader, even decades ago. So that is not their conclusion.
They are really only saying that problem suddenly got MUCH worse.
You said it perfectly - “All writing now is noise”
smodo 47 minutes ago [-]
I was a little cranky when I replied. What I meant was that this flood of LLM-noise already started around GPT-4.5 for many people. I was surprised to read about this now. But it’s good to have a discussion about it at large, anyway.
simianwords 2 hours ago [-]
Here's my bet: with the new unlocked efficiencies, developers will no longer just work on a very small part of a system. Instead they'd be entrusted with entire business units individually or in a small group.
In those cases, the feedback loop is more direct and not necessarily relying on toy proxies like LOC or documents. My point is that it would be like grading a VP of product on how many lines their document has. That'd be stupid because VP's are seen as more mature and have longer term incentives. I don't think it should be any different for employees.
TL;DR employees will become small business owners-ish with AI.
This is just a hypothesis, but I'm willing to be proven wrong.
I assure you anyone in the business of administrating stuff through paperwork (government contracting!) is well aware of the complete obliteration of the basic assumption that ‘someone wrote this so it is at least worth a cursory glance’.
For all its other problems this is my main issue with LLM’s. Writing let people communicate across vast distance and time. Given no metadata, today one must initially assume all writing to be noise.
The OP is not disputing that a lot of writing already had less than zero value to the reader, even decades ago. So that is not their conclusion.
They are really only saying that problem suddenly got MUCH worse.
You said it perfectly - “All writing now is noise”
In those cases, the feedback loop is more direct and not necessarily relying on toy proxies like LOC or documents. My point is that it would be like grading a VP of product on how many lines their document has. That'd be stupid because VP's are seen as more mature and have longer term incentives. I don't think it should be any different for employees.
TL;DR employees will become small business owners-ish with AI.
This is just a hypothesis, but I'm willing to be proven wrong.